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M-A is thinking of getting one - any recommendations?  It has to help me to remember things - so some kind of calendar software, with reminders and audible beeps.  I presume this is pretty standard.  It should also be quite cheap.  Beyond that, do things like cameras / sat. nav come as standard these days?  I also wouldn't mind some way of synchronising it with my PC, too (Windows2000).

From ToothyChat:
MoonShadow: [17:18] Last time I tried using a PDA to help me remember things, I forgot to keep it up-to-date or even look at it at all.
AlexChurchill: [17:20] There are two or three main families. I know lots about the WindowsMobile? family and not much about the others.
M-A: [17:20] The problem is transferring todo lists between work, home and wherever else I may be.
M-A: [17:20] Is WindowsMobile? only on mobile 'phones?
Senji has a Nokia 9500, but it's no good at helping mem remember things
AlexChurchill: [17:27] No, WM is what's on ipaqs and suchlike also.
qqzm also has a nokia 9500
RobHu has a [Nokia N800] which is very very nice, runs Linux, and is not cheap (300 pounds?). It has a webcam built in (no good for taking photos, only for video conferencing), beeps (in fact it has very good loud audio playback), and a high resolution screen (800x480). You can get GPS and route planning software for it, but I'm not convinced it's cost effective to do so.
Admiral has a Palm Tungsten T, and has been generally pleased with it, not having wanted to do cameras (already have one on my phone and a proper one) or GPS (that's what a map and a compass is for). I picked it up on Ebay fairly cheaply. I'd also point out that lots of phones have built-in organisers. I haven't even looked at that part of the menu on mine. As for transferring todo lists between home and work, I find that jpilot will run quite speedily over X-over-ssh or vnc unlike most other X programs. I particularly like that I never have to wait for my palm to catch up with me - it's always responsive and hasn't crashed in a very long time. I imagine a Linux or Windows Mobile system would make you wait every now and again.
I find that GPS is very useful, not for finding your way anywhere, but when you do get lost it is good to have something else to blame --Tsunami
Lost? What is this concept? --Admiral
I believe it's an American show with lots of weird stuff happening but not much plot, to the extent that some people believe it's a piss-take that the writers are seeing how long they can get away with. --Androidkiller
a "concept" that many GPS users know all too well... --Tsunami



Useful Software


AlexChurchill: My must-install software on a new WindowsMobile? PC is Fitaly (but YMMV, and it's shareware); TotalCommander? (a free file manager that's far far better than the FileManager? that comes with it); MagicButton? (a very good and free process manager); and some kind of soft reset capability (there's a free on on http://pocketpcfreewares.com called reset.exe).
I like [iLauncher]'s battery meter, which sits at the top of the screen in every app except full-screen games. Once one gets over the concept of paying for a program launcher (which takes a little doing), iLauncher is a superb app, actually.
May try Fitaly, although the handwriting recog is pretty decent. --CH
Ah, was unaware it also cost. $25 seems remarkably steep, as well. --CH

M-A: OggSync?, PowerStatus?, Birthdays. All available in Freeware versions, although powerstatus has a newer not-freeware version too.  PowerStatus? takes the top row of pixels to show power and memory status.  OggSync? synchronises the calendar with GoogleCalendar?.  There's also GooSync?, but I preferred OggSync?.  Birthdays trawls your contacts list for birthday and anniversary dates, then displays forthcoming ones on your Today screen, along with the number of years for each.
I can't immediately find the latest version (it seems to be up to 1.4 now) of PowerStatus? for free, although I may be being blind. Do you have a link? --CH
It looks like v1.1 is freeware, but more recent versions aren't. Searching for "powerstatus 1.1" pointed me to [this link]. --M-A

In terms of power-off utilities, I have found these three:
Any thoughts on them?
I've put on Restart, which seems to do the job; I couldn't get Powertoys to install. --CH

Also, how do I actually get them onto the PDA? --CH


On mine, I put it in the docking station cradle and, depending on the installer, run it on the PC or copy it to the PDA and run it there. --M-A
PHM PowerToys? was what I used, until I registered iLauncher (which offers a soft-reset as one of the "special function buttons" you can add to your today screen shortcuts). The Notepad that comes with PHM PowerToys? is handy to have on occasion - the notepad built into TotalCommander? is slightly better, but the PHM one can be launched externally from a shortcut.
Just to check, I presume the "suspend" function is what I need to replace the apparently-broken power-off functionality of my power button? --CH, not yet "owning" the PDA, so unable to try
In general, when you download a WindowsMobile? application, you'll get one of three possibilities. In order from most to least frequent:

People who deploy in the first manner (desktop PC executables) are evil. --PT
Why? As a user I find it the simplest to install. --Rachael
It is normally simplest, but I do like developers to provide the CAB as an alternative, for when I'm browsing from the PDA itself, like via wi-fi, without a desktop PC to hand. --AC
Because it assumes that everyone who has a PocketPC? also has a Windows desktop, which is an incorrect assumption. Alex points out one case - that the user doesn't have a desktop at all. I'm a different case, in that I have multiple desktops but they all run Linux. Sometimes running the .exe with Wine will get far enough that it extracts the .cab to a temporary directory and I can copy it, but it's rather hit-and-miss. For example, the Oxford Concise Spanish Dictionary is available for PDA (trial version which can be unlocked), and I wanted to see whether it was worth getting in preparation for moving to Spain, but it won't get anywhere unless it can find IE6. In general, if you're developing for a given platform you shouldn't assume that your end users have anything other than that platform. --PT


So, cases. Hard or soft? --CH
I had a hard case on my PDA, didn't stop it breaking when it slipped out of my pocket :( --Tsunami
Hard case for me, as the soft cases were zip-up cases, which would make me annoyingly slow to answer the phone. --M-A
Having used both, the hard cases seem much better to me. But I've been using hard cases with [custom cutouts for] [my PDAphone's controls], which means I don't get the phone-answering delay to which M-A refers. --AC
To clarify: My hard case also has various cut-out bits, so no problems answering the 'phone. [This] is the kind of zip-up case I was describing, and [this] is the case I have. --M-A
Given my PDA is not a phone, that isn't an issue. So probably a hard, then. I understand Rhino Skin is a good make, yes? --CH
I have a soft(ish - it's leather, after all) case. I don't drop my PDA particularly often. It still works fine, and I've had it for about 2 years. --PT
Likewise. --Rachael


Pondering the paucity of free PDA games, I found [this]. Emulators. Lots of them. NES, GBA, MAME, DOSbox, even Atari, and SCUMM. Now I just need some ROMs or dos games! (and probably a memory card...)  --CH
Actually, [this] port of DOSbox is the one recommended by [AximSite]. Initial opinions are that it starts. I haven't got it set to have enough memory to run AdvancedCivilization? yet. (It would help if I could edit .conf files on the PDA - I probably need a notepad variant).--CH
This may be time for me to mention TotalCommander? again... it has a built-in notepad that's very handy. --AC
Ah, and has the magic word "free" in your description. It might well be time, yes. --CH


Also short for Public Display of Affection (though this may fall under CategoryAmericanism?) --ElliottBelser


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