Rachael: I found this quote today, and thought it was terrifyingly relevant to the WarOnTerror etc: Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country. -Goering [How to crush freedom in a country] --Admiral